Time for Another What-If Post

I honestly can’t remember how many I have done in the past but I don’t think I have dedicated an entire post to something like this.  This is what happens during the off-season…the mind starts to wander.

First, before I begin, I will say that I have been sick all week and noticed the Cleveland-Philly trade the day after it happened.  Doesn’t change my mock draft as all that would have to be done is the Eagles are slotted in at #2 and the Browns are now at #8.  Somehow we have gone back to my first mock which had Joey Bosa going to the Browns.  Poor Joey.

Alright, time for the What-If portion of our show.  The question this time around is What if Penn State was granted entry into the Big East back in 1982?

I know this has been done several times by others but I figured I would take a crack at it.  If you don’t know, Penn State applied to become part of the old Big East in 1982.  They needed six votes to be accepted out of the eight schools and got five.  Georgetown, St. John’s, and Villanova voted against it.  All three had powerhouse basketball programs and did not want to go away from the conference’s basketball roots.  The Big East didn’t sponsor football until 1991 so until then, basketball was king.  This decision was possibly understandable at the time but boy did it ever affect college football in the future, especially with the eventual demise of the Big East itself.

So let’s take a look at what would have happened if Penn State had been accepted to the Big East.

Penn State would have never accepted an invitation to the Big Ten if they had already been in the Big East.  Penn State was an independent until 1990 when they joined the B1G.

The Big East probably would have started sponsoring football at least one or two seasons earlier than it did.  The Big East had a football conference for the first time in 1991.  Chances are this would have started earlier, even if it had been one season.

There is a good chance with Penn State in there, Notre Dame would have joined before talks became serious with NBC.  This means, when the conference probably would have started sponsoring football in, say, 1990, this is what the football lineup would have been:

Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh – all original members

Penn State, Notre Dame – invited in the 80s

Miami, Rutgers, Temple, West Virginia, Virginia Tech – invited when Big East started football conference

That would be some kind of ten-team conference.  Only issues in the 90s would have been Rutgers and Temple being doormats most of the decade.

Does this mean Florida State joins the Big East?  Probably not but I think the decision becomes a little less simple with Miami, Penn State, and Notre Dame all in one conference.

Up until 1995, most of this would have meant very little.  That all changed in 1996 when the Southwest Conference ceased to exist.  This made the Big 8 expand to the Big 12, Conference USA being formed, and the WAC going with some extreme expansion.  Remember, if all above had happened, the Big Ten would have still been at ten teams.

I think the big 1996 realignment, the first of its kind, would have gone on exactly as it looked, at the time.  At this point, college football is big, but not as big as it has become now.  And it certainly didn’t have the money flowing towards it back in 1996 that it does now, 20 years later.

All this time, I am sure Joe Paterno would have reminded everyone of his vision of a Northeastern-type conference of college football.  The one team that he had mentioned that wasn’t in the Big East was Maryland.

This brings us to 2004.  The great ACC heist of three teams from the Big East (well, Miami and Virginia Tech that year and Boston College the next).  We can safely say now that this probably never happens.  However, Miami had complained about the Big East as far back as 1999.  The northern nature of the conference may have created the scenario that Miami would have felt like an outsider.  At the time, Miami did feel like an outsider because they were more focused on football than basketball.  Again, this isn’t the issue here.  My guess is Virginia Tech and Boston College stay.  And on top of that, the Big East adds the aforementioned Maryland to the conference to complete Joe Paterno’s dream (kind of).  Also Connecticut is added to the Big East as well.  Finally, Temple remains and isn’t dropped as was originally what happened.

The ACC is almost desperate for expansion so they would take Miami, especially since this means more games for Miami against archrival Florida State.  The ACC wanted enough teams (twelve) to hold a conference championship game though.  This meant they would have still needed three teams.  My best guess is they go to twelve immediately with the invitations to Louisville, Cincinnati, and USF, the three football programs who ended up going to the Big East that same year.

I believe this would also be what behooved the Big Ten to expand.  In 2011, they added Nebraska from the Big XII.  I think they would go all in and also add Kansas and Missouri as well.  This would put them at an awkward 13.  Rutgers now wouldn’t make sense as the Big Ten really didn’t have a bridge to the NY/NJ area.  My guess is they are semi-forced to take Kansas State as they may be anchored to Kansas (although that might not be true).

So now the Big XII is down to nine.  Do they stay that way?  I doubt it.  But now, instead of Colorado and Utah, the (then) Pac-10 has an easier time of convincing the Texahoma 4 (Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State) to move west and join to become the Pac-14.

The SEC would get Texas A&M but now Missouri is in the Big Ten (where they probably should have been all along).  Knowing there’s few schools out there that fit the SEC footprint they may just take UCF as they are a huge school from a big area.  It would also match the number of Florida teams in the ACC with two.

Finally, with all this talk of conference championships being important, the Big East would have to move to add a team to get to twelve.  My best guess is that it would come down to three schools at the time: East Carolina, Massachusetts, and Buffalo.  East Carolina wouldn’t fit the geographic footprint and Buffalo isn’t a power in neither football nor basketball.  So in the end, the Big East gets UMass.

All this would leave the following setup (I have left divisions out as it doesn’t really matter here):

Big East SEC Pac-14 Big Ten ACC
Boston College Alabama Arizona Illinois Cincinnati
Connecticut Arkansas Arizona St. Indiana Clemson
Maryland Auburn California Iowa Duke
Massachusetts Florida Oklahoma Kansas Florida St.
Notre Dame Georgia Oklahoma St. Kansas St. Georgia Tech
Penn State Kentucky Oregon Michigan Louisville
Pittsburgh LSU Oregon St. Michigan St. Miami
Rutgers Mississippi St. Stanford Minnesota NC State
Syracuse Ole Miss Texas Missouri North Carolina
Temple South Carolina Texas Tech Nebraska USF
Virginia Tech Tennessee UCLA Northwestern Virginia
West Virginia Texas A&M USC Ohio St. Wake Forest
UCF Washington Purdue
Vanderbilt Washington St. Wisconsin

There’s probably a few things that could change there obviously as some schools could be considered more “deserving” to be in there than others.  Some schools, like Baylor and TCU, now thrive on the football field and it may affect things in the future.  Obviously this means the Big XII would die off (not surprisingly) and the aforementioned Baylor and TCU would be joined by Iowa State and Colorado as schools without a conference.  Either the Mountain West or Conference USA would become their home.  Either that or, in the case of Baylor and TCU, a new Southwest Conference is formed with some of the bigger/more successful schools like Houston, North Texas, UTSA, UL-Lafayette, etc.  Utah would be still stuck in the Mountain West.  This, however, might mean that BYU might be inclined to want back in, especially if they also had Baylor and TCU.

This whole exercise also includes the breakup of the Big East as well.  The basketball schools would leave and create their own conference like they have now.  However, the Big East name might not be theirs so the conference with Georgetown, Villanova, Butler, et al might be called The American Conference instead.

Anyways, no matter how you figure the dominoes would fall, it is a certainty that that one vote not going Penn State’s way changed college football’s landscape forever.

Mock Draft Five…FIVE? Yeah Five. Thanks a bunch Titans.

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I wasn’t planning this I swear.  I was prepared to ride my draft prediction horse into the NFL Draft at the end of the month.  Then Tennessee decides to fuck things up TWO WEEKS before the draft.  Jerks.  It was a massive trade for sure and it’s obvious the Rams have decided that since they moved to Los Angeles they better do something good…unlike what they did in St. Louis since the early part of the century.

So I had to re-do my mock draft V 4.  I figured I could change a few picks and all would be well.  Nope.  Not even close.  That one trade had a pretty catastrophic effect on my entire mock draft, especially round one where many picks changed.

Here’s my brand-spankin’ new mock draft followed by a fun non-Buzzfeed-like list (you won’t believe bullet point number one!):

1 Los Angeles Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
2 Cleveland Jared Goff, QB, California
3 San Diego Laremy Tunsil, T, Ole Miss
4 Dallas Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida State
5 Jacksonville Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
6 Baltimore Jack Conklin, T, Michigan State
7 San Francisco Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
8 Philadelphia Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
9 Tampa Bay DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
10 NY Giants Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
11 Chicago Ronnie Stanley, T, Notre Dame
12 New Orleans Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky
13 Miami Darron Lee, LB, Ohio State
14 Oakland Taylor Decker, T, Ohio State
15 Tennessee Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
16 Detroit William Jackson, CB, Houston
17 Atlanta Leonard Floyd, LB, Georgia
18 Indianapolis Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
19 Buffalo Sheldon Rankins, DE, Louisville
20 NY Jets Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
21 Washington A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama
22 Houston Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama
23 Minnesota Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
24 Cincinnati Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
25 Pittsburgh Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
26 Seattle Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
27 Green Bay Germain Ifedi, T, Texas A&M
28 Cleveland Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama
29 Arizona Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
30 Carolina Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
31 Denver Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
32 Kansas City Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
33 Tennessee Tavon Young, CB, Temple
34 Dallas Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech
35 San Diego Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
36 Baltimore Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame
37 San Francisco Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
38 Jacksonville Su’a Cravens, LB, USC
39 Tampa Bay Maurice Canady, CB, Virginia
40 NY Giants Robert Nkemdiche, DE, Ole Miss
41 Chicago Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State
42 Miami Jason Spriggs, T, Indiana
43 Tennessee Le’Raven Clark, T, Texas Tech
44 Oakland Keanu Neal, S, Florida
45 Tennessee Justin Simmons, S, Boston College
46 Detroit Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State
47 New Orleans Joshua Garnett, G, Stanford
48 Indianapolis Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State
49 Buffalo Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State
50 Atlanta Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State
51 NY Jets Nick Martin, C, Notre Dame
52 Houston Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State
53 Washington Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma
54 Minnesota Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State
55 Cincinnati Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA
56 Seattle Javon Hargrave, DT, South Carolina State
57 Green Bay Charles Tapper, OLB, Oklahoma
58 Pittsburgh Yannick Ngokoue, LB, Maryland
59 Kansas City Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan State
60 New England Artie Burns, CB, Miami
61 Arizona Darian Thompson, S, Boise State
62 Carolina Shon Coleman, T, Auburn
63 Denver Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas

List (now with less Buzzfeed)

  • Let me start with saying I do enjoy Buzzfeed sometimes. They have some cool lists at times.  It’s just the clickbait titles have gotten out of hand.  Soon I am sure they will have a link that says “NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS ORGY AT THE STADIUM!  YOU WON’T BELIEVE WHO SOME OF THE WOMEN ARE!” and it’s a list of pictures of Tom and Gisele holding hands in various parts of the stadium.
  • The domino effect of that trade was insane. First of all, you almost HAVE to go all-in with quarterbacks at the top two spots now.  The Rams desperately want a quarterback and it is looking like Carson Wentz will be their guy.  At the two spot, the Browns aren’t picking Laremy Tunsil.  Not that their offensive line is awesome (apologies to Joe Thomas) but they also really want a QB.  So (Don’t Hassle the) Goff will probably go #2 to the Browns.
  • What this means is that the guy who was the easy consensus first overall pick probably has no chance of being #1 now and that’s Laremy Tunsil. The Chargers would not pass a guy like that up so the domino effect continues.
  • If you compared my previous mock draft that I did LAST WEEK with this one, it’s like I almost put every name in a hat and picked them out one-by-one. Here are just a few of the rather large changes (especially when we are considering this is a week’s difference):
    • DeForest Buckner dropped 5 spots (from 4 to 9)
    • Vernon Hargreaves moved up 7 spots (from 12 to 5)
    • Jack Conklin moved up 10 spots (from 16 to 6)
    • Noah Spence moved up 6 spots (from 18 to 12)
    • Darron Lee dropped 7 spots (from 6 to 13)
    • Ezekiel Elliott moved up 7 spots (from 22 to 15)
    • And that’s just for the current top 15!
  • And now I hear rumblings that the Browns may do the unthinkable and trade out of the #2 spot. This could end up being one of the wildest draft days (well, as wild as a draft can get) in a long time.  I, for one, kind of hope the Browns do trade out just to see the added chaos it causes.  Just don’t do it until closer to the draft.  I don’t want to have to do a version 6.
  • And finally, my apologies to Sheldon Rankins for excluding him from the previous mock draft. Don’t know how that happened.  I will blame it on global warming because why the hell not.

    The schedule is getting pretty close to completed.  The games are slotted in the proper weeks so by the end of May I will be starting the series of posts on the most important games of the upcoming season.  A little over four months away!  I hope it goes quick!!!

 

Mock Draft V 4 – Yeah I’m all in now

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All in with quarterbacks that is.  I’ve taken the bait.  Who knows if I will be right (Spoiler Alert: probably not) but it’s kind of fun to just go with the trend and move quarterbacks up into the first round.  Fuck it, like it matters in the end.

Alright here are the first two rounds of mock draft number four with some fun-time notes afterwards:

1 Tennessee Laremy Tunsil, T, Ole Miss
2 Cleveland Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
3 San Diego Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida State
4 Dallas DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
5 Jacksonville Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
6 Baltimore Darron Lee, LB, Ohio State
7 San Francisco Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
8 Philadelphia Jared Goff, QB, California
9 Tampa Bay Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
10 NY Giants Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
11 Chicago Ronnie Stanley, T, Notre Dame
12 New Orleans Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
13 Miami Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
14 Oakland A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama
15 Los Angeles Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
16 Detroit Jack Conklin, T, Michigan State
17 Atlanta Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky
18 Indianapolis Taylor Decker, T, Ohio State
19 Buffalo Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
20 NY Jets Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
21 Washington Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
22 Houston Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
23 Minnesota Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
24 Cincinnati Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama
25 Pittsburgh William Jackson, CB, Houston
26 Seattle Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech
27 Green Bay Leonard Floyd, LB, Georgia
28 Cleveland Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
29 Arizona Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
30 Carolina Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama
31 Denver Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
32 Kansas City Germain Ifedi, T, Texas A&M
33 Tennessee Tavon Young, CB, Temple
34 Dallas Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
35 San Diego Robert Nkemdiche, DE, Ole Miss
36 Baltimore Joshua Garnett, G, Stanford
37 San Francisco Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
38 Jacksonville Su’a Cravens, LB, USC
39 Tampa Bay Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State
40 NY Giants Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State
41 Chicago Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State
42 Miami Le’Raven Clark, T, Texas Tech
43 Los Angeles Nick Martin, C, Notre Dame
44 Oakland Justin Simmons, S, Boston College
45 Los Angeles Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State
46 Detroit Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame
47 New Orleans Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State
48 Indianapolis Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State
49 Buffalo Jason Spriggs, T, Indiana
50 Atlanta Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA
51 NY Jets Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State
52 Houston Cardale Jones, QB, Ohio State
53 Washington Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan State
54 Minnesota Keanu Neal, S, Florida
55 Cincinnati Charles Tapper, OLB, Oklahoma
56 Seattle Javon Hargrave, DT, South Carolina State
57 Green Bay Yannick Ngokoue, LB, Maryland
58 Pittsburgh Darian Thompson, S, Boise State
59 Kansas City Adolphus Washington, DT, Ohio State
60 New England Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma
61 Arizona Maurice Canady, CB, Virginia
62 Carolina Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
63 Denver Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas

Fun-Time Notes

  • We are now up to seven quarterbacks in the first two rounds. It seems more and more like Philadelphia and San Francisco are going to draft quarterbacks (and that they might trade up to get the one they want COUGH*Carson Wentz*COUGH).  Welcome Dak Prescott and Cardale Jones to the draft board everyone.  Two supremely talented college quarterbacks that could be, at the very least, decent backups in the NFL.  Plus they both like to run and have little regard for the safety of their own bodies.
  • Will Tennessee trade the number one pick? It wouldn’t surprise me.  Saying that, I still believe Laremy Tunsil is a lock for the #1 pick unless the Eagles trade up into that spot.  That’s the only way someone who is pretty much Bizarro Tunsil (Wentz) could be drafted number one.
  • I’ve dropped Joey Bosa to 9, Vernon Hargreaves to 12, and Noah Spence all the way to 17. This is more of other guys stepping up through their respective Pro Days rather than these three falling for any conceivable reason (although Spence didn’t exactly light it up at the Combine).

This has become very interesting.  I could see upwards of four trades involving the first ten picks which is unheard of.  Even more than one trade that early on makes the heads of the experts at ESPN and the NFL Network explode.  Mel Kiper might do laps.  Mike Mayock may chug an entire bottle of Jack Daniels.  It could get insane.  Or at least more so than it usually is.

You have just witnessed my last mock draft for the 2016 NFL Draft brought to you by Verizon (or some other massive corporation).  We are 17 days away now so unless something crazy happens, I am sticking with what I’ve got.  This year, I plan to switch it up and will watch the ESPN draft feed instead of the NFL Network broadcast.  Only fair since the last two drafts I watched mostly the NFL Network.  I’m assume it will be equal parts introspective, entertaining, and shitshow-like.

This will probably be my last post until after the draft.  I may throw down something great….who am I kidding, I know I won’t.  Working on the college schedule right now and am gearing up for the annual Most Important Games list which will come out possibly in late May if everything works out.